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Election Day

It’s finally here.  I went out and voted this morning.  If you’ve haven’t already done so, make sure you head out and vote.  Then stop in at Starbucks and tell them you voted and you’ll get a free coffee.  I got the Thanksgiving Blend.  Yum.

In the spirit of Election day, here’s a fun video that explains how our system works from the folks over at Common Craft:

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8 responses

  1. Alicia Zimmerman

    In the spirit of being green, I walked the mile to my polling place to vote. I had to wait for about 20 minutes (and I purposely went during a “non-busy” time) and cast my vote. I was too tired to stay up to see my candidate win and make the historic speech that I knew he would make. I went to sleep, hopeful that the next day would begin a new era of positivity and change.

    Today, I am delighted and yet a little nervous about all that Barack has to do. So many people are relying on him to make this country better. They need to know that Barack cannot do it alone. They need to help, and they need to pray. We all need to do our part. Many people are not willing to sacrifice anything in order to help. Sacrifice is a tough word to digest–especially when most can’t even swallow it in the first place. I heard people saying that they were worried their taxes would go up if Barack got elected. Hey, if taxes go up for the sake of helping kids who need financial aid to go to college or for the sake of giving shelter to battered women and their children, or for the sake of providing school breakfasts and lunches for poor kids, then the Christian thing to do is swallow the sacrifice and digest the true meaning of being a Christian.

    I truly believe that Barack cares about people and that many of his policies and programs will stem from that caring attitude. I see the good that can come from that, and I hope that after he’s initiated some of his policies, any skeptics will see it too.

    November 5, 2008 at 10:10 am

  2. Is the true meaning of being “Christian” giving because you’re forced to (taxes) or giving from a cheerful heart? As Christians, we’re called to pay our taxes just like everyone else, and many of the services that the government provides with those taxes, including the ones you mention, are indeed good ones. But not wanting higher taxes does not mean you’re a bad Christian, nor does it mean that you don’t want to help with those problems.

    As an aside, Barack’s plan for taxes is just as messed up as the Republicans’ in my mind. People should be taxed based on how much they spend in the form of a national sales tax. Rich people can “choose” to pay less taxes by buying less stuff. Or, if you want 5 houses, then expect to pay taxes on 4 of them.

    Certain necessities would be tax free (unprepared food, basic clothing/toiletries to name a couple) and others would be taxed. You can even set a price-point where taxes kick in. For example, a shirt that is $30 or less may not be taxed because it’s considered “basic needs”, but a $100 shirt would be because it’s considered a “luxury” item.

    November 5, 2008 at 10:35 am

  3. Alicia Zimmerman

    If we wait for people to be cheerful about giving, the needy in this country will be left out. I think Barack understands that people who make more money should give more money. Sounds like tithing to me. And if taxes were solely based on spending, rich people could stuff money under their mattresses and still be rich or they can spend it in some other country where their purchases won’t be taxed the same.

    Taxes should be progressive and they should go even higher for the rich–no caps. And what’s wrong with the rich paying more? They waste their money on stuff that only benefits them most of the time. If they want to live in this country and make millions, then they should be giving some back to the country so that it can do its business.

    November 5, 2008 at 11:05 am

  4. chuckwhited

    I am wondering if we should be looking to the government to take care of the poor and battered. As Christians, we don’t look to our taxes to do those things. We do those things because of Christ, which is not our governments motivation. We do those things through ministries of our churces.

    Therefore, the values I look at also reflect from my church when it is time to vote. So I ask questions like, “Will my tax money be used to promote the killing of the unborn?” “Will my tax money be used to hinder free speech?” “Will my tax dollars be used to promote same-sex unions?” Then I vote accordingly, nether Republican or Democrat, but values.

    November 5, 2008 at 11:22 am

  5. The tithe is incredibly different from taxes, especially on this side of Jesus’ ministry among us. It’s not mandatory today, it’s a response to God’s work in our lives. In the OT, when it was mandated, It was also a percentage that was equal for all parties, not a higher percentage for richer folks.

    As for what’s wrong with the rich paying more, it’s a penalty for doing well in life. They should absolutely pay more real dollars, but not more by percentage. Now for Christians who are rich, there’s an urge to give more because to whomever much has been given, much will be required. (Luke 12:48)

    Interestingly, here’s the giving records of all the candidates, in percentage of income form, gleaned from tax returns:

    Joe Biden: 0.15% of income (source)
    Barack Obama: 1.1% until announcing candidacy, 4.1% overall (source)
    John McCain: 25% in 2007, plus royalties from books and pay-raise that Senators voted themselves (source and source)
    Sarah Palin: 2.4% (source)

    November 5, 2008 at 11:43 am

  6. Alicia Zimmerman

    John McCain happens to be the richest of the group you mentioned, Jason. He SHOULD be paying the most. (This is the same guy who didn’t know how many houses he has.) Don’t rich people get some kind of tax break if they have a certain level of giving to charities??? That could be the reason for the 25%.

    When the church actually DOES take care of ALL the people, then we can lower those taxes or use them for other stuff. PROMOTE the killing of the unborn? I don’t think so. The Democrats are trying to stop the pregnancies in the first place and/or give other options to women who might otherwise want abortions. How about, instead of ranting about the killing of the “unborn,” we think about the living killing the living? Where are the scores of people trying to stop that by making chains along busy streets? Don’t THOSE people matter?

    And it’s the Republicans who don’t want to be taxed so that their money can go to SUPPORT those SAME WOMEN who have had to make the choice of having THAT SAME BABY, despite not having the means to support that same baby–and if that child becomes abused by that parent, or becomes a drug-addicted thief, it’s the Republicans that say “no abortion” who don’t want to pay taxes to rehabilitate that same child.

    If you say “no abortion,” you better back it up financially and supportively. Find a way to adopt ALL those babies and give them a home where they can thrive. Build good orphanages here in the US with decent people to take care of those children and provide them food and a good education instead of having them live with a parent who didn’t want them in the first place and can’t provide for them what they need to become decent people.

    Even though, in Roman times, the taxes that were being paid were not all going to good causes, Jesus said we are still to pay them.

    November 5, 2008 at 12:49 pm

  7. My point about McCain is that he voluntarily gave the most, not because he was taxed more than the others. Shame on Biden, Obama and Palin equally for not giving more.

    My initial concern in this discussion was the implication that being a good Christian means supporting more taxes. We’ve obviously moved way beyond the original issue and I’m not sure this discussion is edifying or helpful. We’ll have to disagree silently now. I’m locking comments and closing the discussion.

    November 5, 2008 at 2:07 pm

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